Direct_Action_99
01-03 10:14 AM
Dear Friends!
(By mistake I posted this in another thread. I think this is the right one)
Good Morning and Happy New Year! Wish you all success, good health, peace of mind and great prosperity!!!
Though I visit the forum quite often, I do not particiapte in a big way. I just read to understand the view points of others. After a lot of hesitation I took time to draft this note!
I am not sure how far my views would find acceptance, but I would like to share some of my thoughts!
1. Although I would sincerely like to give credit to the IV forum for all what they have done (and doing), I personally feel that that the days of prayer and petition are gone!
2. To achieve something concrete and tangible, atleast a minimum of 100,000 (Desis + Chinese / Filippinos if possible) should rally in Washington DC to press our case.
This alone will generate enough publicity. We can show our strength and if there is a consensus, opt for a hunger strike.History has always shown that "direct action" alone has yielded results.
3. Unlike European countries where the laws of immigration and naturalization are simple, here it is very convoluted and confusing. All laws in the USA ONLY favour the employers and the law firms. Due to this, several of us have been harassed by our employers.
4. Instead of harping on the existing archiac and immigrant unfriendly rules, we could propose something like this:
a. Provide Green Cards for all legal immigrants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay, as on say, June 1, 2010. Continuity would mean not leaving the USA for a period of 90 days at a stretch. (I have completed more than 9 years personally, but I am suggesting a time line of 8 years because H1 is valid for 6 years and L1 is for 7 years. It will certianly not acceptable for the US Government to provide GC to every H1 / L1 holder. Any period below 8 years may meet with very stiff opposition)
b. The legal immigrants with 8 + years should have a criminal free record (barring minor traffic offenses) and should have filed their tax returns
c. Citizenship status should be provided to all legal immigrants with 10+ years
Note 1 : Rules in the UK/ Europe are :
Permanent residency after 5 years of legal stay
Citizenship after 10 years of legal stay or 15 yearls of illegal stay
5.We are always getting drawn into the trap and quagmire of the existing regulations and the INS / US goverment / Law firms / Employers are enjoying the fun
Note 2: I have stated everything based on my stay in different countries and keeping in mind the interests of the immigrant community very sincerely. It is upto IV to publish this or discard this. I will also NOT respond to any comments / cristicisms. I am just requesting the readers to kindly intrsopect!
Best wishes!
(By mistake I posted this in another thread. I think this is the right one)
Good Morning and Happy New Year! Wish you all success, good health, peace of mind and great prosperity!!!
Though I visit the forum quite often, I do not particiapte in a big way. I just read to understand the view points of others. After a lot of hesitation I took time to draft this note!
I am not sure how far my views would find acceptance, but I would like to share some of my thoughts!
1. Although I would sincerely like to give credit to the IV forum for all what they have done (and doing), I personally feel that that the days of prayer and petition are gone!
2. To achieve something concrete and tangible, atleast a minimum of 100,000 (Desis + Chinese / Filippinos if possible) should rally in Washington DC to press our case.
This alone will generate enough publicity. We can show our strength and if there is a consensus, opt for a hunger strike.History has always shown that "direct action" alone has yielded results.
3. Unlike European countries where the laws of immigration and naturalization are simple, here it is very convoluted and confusing. All laws in the USA ONLY favour the employers and the law firms. Due to this, several of us have been harassed by our employers.
4. Instead of harping on the existing archiac and immigrant unfriendly rules, we could propose something like this:
a. Provide Green Cards for all legal immigrants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay, as on say, June 1, 2010. Continuity would mean not leaving the USA for a period of 90 days at a stretch. (I have completed more than 9 years personally, but I am suggesting a time line of 8 years because H1 is valid for 6 years and L1 is for 7 years. It will certianly not acceptable for the US Government to provide GC to every H1 / L1 holder. Any period below 8 years may meet with very stiff opposition)
b. The legal immigrants with 8 + years should have a criminal free record (barring minor traffic offenses) and should have filed their tax returns
c. Citizenship status should be provided to all legal immigrants with 10+ years
Note 1 : Rules in the UK/ Europe are :
Permanent residency after 5 years of legal stay
Citizenship after 10 years of legal stay or 15 yearls of illegal stay
5.We are always getting drawn into the trap and quagmire of the existing regulations and the INS / US goverment / Law firms / Employers are enjoying the fun
Note 2: I have stated everything based on my stay in different countries and keeping in mind the interests of the immigrant community very sincerely. It is upto IV to publish this or discard this. I will also NOT respond to any comments / cristicisms. I am just requesting the readers to kindly intrsopect!
Best wishes!
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p1234
09-13 06:46 PM
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
Are you July 07 filer who got the EAD out of turn? I bet you are.
And if you are, keep your loud mouth shut! Before you pontificate, look at people and others like you who got in and created a mess!
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
Are you July 07 filer who got the EAD out of turn? I bet you are.
And if you are, keep your loud mouth shut! Before you pontificate, look at people and others like you who got in and created a mess!
CantLeaveAmerica
04-01 01:26 AM
We're much better off here in the US when you compare our compatriots suffering in Britain. Britain has enforced a lot more regulations on immigrants, much to their chagrin.
Let's grin and bear it and hope to see the 'green' light at the end of the tunnel.
That's exactly the point..USCIS is HEADED by fools...the problem lies within...the heads dont really care if their staff is underpaid and over-worked..but the fact of it is that they just don't have the money nor manpower to get the work done. When USCIS adjudicated all those cases in 2002, it was not of their own volition but because Congress mandated it..6 years later they dont care for the immigrants..u think they'd (policy makers) care 2 hoots for the the USCIS officers...just take a look at the Infopass centers...from my experience I havent seen more than 2 officers helping customers at a time..no money..no manpower
Let's grin and bear it and hope to see the 'green' light at the end of the tunnel.
That's exactly the point..USCIS is HEADED by fools...the problem lies within...the heads dont really care if their staff is underpaid and over-worked..but the fact of it is that they just don't have the money nor manpower to get the work done. When USCIS adjudicated all those cases in 2002, it was not of their own volition but because Congress mandated it..6 years later they dont care for the immigrants..u think they'd (policy makers) care 2 hoots for the the USCIS officers...just take a look at the Infopass centers...from my experience I havent seen more than 2 officers helping customers at a time..no money..no manpower
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santa123
07-11 08:26 AM
Any movement for any EB is good news for all EB.:D
If EB2 cases are processed heavily till Oct 08, then the chances are high on significant movement for EB3 in Oct (jus a few months from now). For EB3-ers its time to prepare and hope for the best. Best wishes to all Eb2-ers who are current...
If EB2 cases are processed heavily till Oct 08, then the chances are high on significant movement for EB3 in Oct (jus a few months from now). For EB3-ers its time to prepare and hope for the best. Best wishes to all Eb2-ers who are current...
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santb1975
06-05 10:41 AM
I will update our numbers tonight
needhelp!
05-28 05:44 PM
Thanks for your contribution. Please join us also in calling the important list of representatives: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19339
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eb3_nepa
07-14 03:14 PM
Just dropped a check for $5. I hope all of the remaining members do the same.
Mailing a check is just as good as a bill pay.
For those who are unaware as to what the "Bill Pay" option is, basically the Bill pay option is a great way to take advantage of your bank cutting a cheque as opposed to you cutting a cheque. That way you can write cheques without having to:
1) Actually write out a cheque
2) Spend money to post it (and take the extra effort to mail the cheque out).
Keep the contributions flowing.
Mailing a check is just as good as a bill pay.
For those who are unaware as to what the "Bill Pay" option is, basically the Bill pay option is a great way to take advantage of your bank cutting a cheque as opposed to you cutting a cheque. That way you can write cheques without having to:
1) Actually write out a cheque
2) Spend money to post it (and take the extra effort to mail the cheque out).
Keep the contributions flowing.
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hpandey
03-04 05:42 PM
One last question, if you don't mind.
I assume yours is a conventional loan, how much equity do you have on your home, and how much down payment did you make on your home purchase first time?
I have a 30 Year fixed loan. I made more than 20% downpayment and since I bought my house only few months back not much change in equity yet.
I assume yours is a conventional loan, how much equity do you have on your home, and how much down payment did you make on your home purchase first time?
I have a 30 Year fixed loan. I made more than 20% downpayment and since I bought my house only few months back not much change in equity yet.
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mbawa2574
07-06 01:27 AM
IV does not need a change in leadership. We have a very effective leadership that is working hard behind the scenes to bring about a positive change to the community. If we have not been noticing major changes, it's due to the passive (chaltha hai chalne do) nature of our community, who don't even lift a finger to swat a fly, until and unless they receive a RFE/NOID/Rejection letter from the USCIS.
No change in leadership will bring about any change, unless the community changes it's mentality, raises above narcissism, and becomes actively involved in the movement. This requires a "person with the face", a person ready to expose himself as a leader of the movement to motivate others; subjecting himself/herself to death threats (and other threats) from anti-immigrant goons like ITGrunt and others. Our fearless Aman Kapoor has made that bold sacrifice for the ungrateful community which blames him for all our collective failures.
So before proposing a change in leadership, I request Mr. Bawa to post his personal picture in the IV profile and/or publish a YouTube video of his ideas for the movement ( just like Aman's video on Immigration Voice). I can't vote for a faceless leader hiding behind anonymity. I need a real life person with real ideas. Do we have such New fearless leaders in our community?
I can post my picture or I may have a video on youtube. I am not trying to blame Aman. I am pointing at the wrong stratergy and a sleeping core team. They were good in 07 but not anymore. Let's find the new leaders. U can take names or call me whatever but I want something done above and beyond the idealism.
I have met Senators, I have visited Reps and met enough people on IV's directions, Nothing has changed as the directors were incompetent.
No change in leadership will bring about any change, unless the community changes it's mentality, raises above narcissism, and becomes actively involved in the movement. This requires a "person with the face", a person ready to expose himself as a leader of the movement to motivate others; subjecting himself/herself to death threats (and other threats) from anti-immigrant goons like ITGrunt and others. Our fearless Aman Kapoor has made that bold sacrifice for the ungrateful community which blames him for all our collective failures.
So before proposing a change in leadership, I request Mr. Bawa to post his personal picture in the IV profile and/or publish a YouTube video of his ideas for the movement ( just like Aman's video on Immigration Voice). I can't vote for a faceless leader hiding behind anonymity. I need a real life person with real ideas. Do we have such New fearless leaders in our community?
I can post my picture or I may have a video on youtube. I am not trying to blame Aman. I am pointing at the wrong stratergy and a sleeping core team. They were good in 07 but not anymore. Let's find the new leaders. U can take names or call me whatever but I want something done above and beyond the idealism.
I have met Senators, I have visited Reps and met enough people on IV's directions, Nothing has changed as the directors were incompetent.
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Xipe Totec
04-25 12:37 PM
This would technically mean that anyone anywhere in the world now, who has ever been to the US on a H visa, can apply for a GC based on the first touchdown date.
Not if the law would say "...currently holding an H1B status" ;)
Not if the law would say "...currently holding an H1B status" ;)
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lelica32
09-26 05:17 PM
I'v send a letter today. Let see if the Ombudsman will send me a answer.
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sanprabhu
07-20 10:02 AM
Actually it was lost by only 2 votes. Only 95 Senators voted and hence 57 votes would have been enough to carry it through. Really Sad. :(
That only 57 is required is not correct. The vote needs 60 to pass the motion. If no is totaling up only 37 but if yes is 59 still then it would not pass. Also if the senator is absent then it is considered a NO vote.
That only 57 is required is not correct. The vote needs 60 to pass the motion. If no is totaling up only 37 but if yes is 59 still then it would not pass. Also if the senator is absent then it is considered a NO vote.
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sanjeev_2004
04-18 03:29 AM
My I140 is pending since 16 May 2007. My employer is not helping much. Employer is not giving his attorney contact number also. After calling millions of times they putted one service request 4 months back but nothing happend. I talked to few attonrnies they told they can only work if your employer signs G28 form for me. But my employer is not even picking my phone. Can I do any thing without my Employer's help?
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ramus
07-06 01:20 PM
I never saw this roumer any where..
no problem buddy, I just dont want u getting caught plagializing....just kidding!
Hope for thebest..I am hoping rumors abt accepting all July applications turn out true
no problem buddy, I just dont want u getting caught plagializing....just kidding!
Hope for thebest..I am hoping rumors abt accepting all July applications turn out true
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ronhira
07-06 02:30 AM
U need to change ur handle :-)
now that's not fair, i don't know how to change my handle, just think for a minute that my handle is - let me pick another name out of the blue - how about matloff. would that work?
now that's not fair, i don't know how to change my handle, just think for a minute that my handle is - let me pick another name out of the blue - how about matloff. would that work?
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kshitijnt
06-26 02:08 PM
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
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jojet
03-04 02:33 PM
HI GUYS,
me and my spouse filed 1485 in july 2007 with a received date of 10/07/07.
we donot see anychanges online other than the case received and pending notice.
is there a way we can find the status of our case.if name check is cleared,any further finger printing as we only did once in 2007.ours is eb3.any input highly appreciated.
me and my spouse filed 1485 in july 2007 with a received date of 10/07/07.
we donot see anychanges online other than the case received and pending notice.
is there a way we can find the status of our case.if name check is cleared,any further finger printing as we only did once in 2007.ours is eb3.any input highly appreciated.
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ebizash
07-24 08:05 PM
If somebody is sending this letter, please do not send it without taking care of word-suggested corrections. There are too many green lines, most of the times because of spacing between two words.
OP - My intention is not to offend you but to point out the need for improvement in the document.
OP - My intention is not to offend you but to point out the need for improvement in the document.
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little_willy
07-20 02:53 PM
The important thing is, not all BEC cases are alive today. Most people moved on to PERM. On the flip side, some newbies took advantage of substituted Labor, but I am guessing the count is not very high.
My employer applied for labor for 8 of us in our organization of 50 ppl. This is in the middle of 2003. I am the only one left at this point as the rest of them moved to different employers or got GC through their spouse. Also, I know for a fact that those labors were not substituted. This may have happened else where too. So, i guess the total I-485 applicants will be around 400K including dependants and won't be as high as being speculated every where.
My employer applied for labor for 8 of us in our organization of 50 ppl. This is in the middle of 2003. I am the only one left at this point as the rest of them moved to different employers or got GC through their spouse. Also, I know for a fact that those labors were not substituted. This may have happened else where too. So, i guess the total I-485 applicants will be around 400K including dependants and won't be as high as being speculated every where.
chi_shark
03-06 02:14 PM
There is no need for people to call USCIS. The PD date movement is based on demand. Even for a worst case scenario, USCIS should use 3300 visas for EB3-I. By Aug 2009, if they have only used 1000 visas, then DOS will move the PD for EB3-I by a couple of months.
Now my prediction. We will see PD current for all categories except for EB3-I/EB2-I/EB2-C in by August 2009. EB3-I would reach 2003 Jan. EB2-I and EB2-C will reach 2006 Jan.
I have no real basis for my prediction. Like Michael Crichton would say, no body can predict the future. We can only guess about what would happen in the future. Some of that guess is a calculated/informed guess; still it is just a guess.
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Now my prediction. We will see PD current for all categories except for EB3-I/EB2-I/EB2-C in by August 2009. EB3-I would reach 2003 Jan. EB2-I and EB2-C will reach 2006 Jan.
I have no real basis for my prediction. Like Michael Crichton would say, no body can predict the future. We can only guess about what would happen in the future. Some of that guess is a calculated/informed guess; still it is just a guess.
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maddipati1
12-16 01:22 PM
one of my close friend grew from a regular programmer to the position of VP in the span of last 6 years. he is facing lot of issues with GC.
clearly mirage didn't mean growing to the position of exactly VP. he meant a higher and slightly different position, for example an IT Manager. It is not that uncommon, for a IT Progmr who works in the same company for 5-6 years, offered a Manager position.
desi, this is argument is going nowhere, ur intentions in the begining are good and i welcome ur critique, but leave it when recepeints aren't taking it. it became argument just for the sake of supporting ur argument.
BTW, I am yet to see any such cases where someone is offered job offer for vice president whereas he/she is working as Programmer.
clearly mirage didn't mean growing to the position of exactly VP. he meant a higher and slightly different position, for example an IT Manager. It is not that uncommon, for a IT Progmr who works in the same company for 5-6 years, offered a Manager position.
desi, this is argument is going nowhere, ur intentions in the begining are good and i welcome ur critique, but leave it when recepeints aren't taking it. it became argument just for the sake of supporting ur argument.
BTW, I am yet to see any such cases where someone is offered job offer for vice president whereas he/she is working as Programmer.
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